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		<title>Comment on Verbouwing Kunsthal kost 5 miljoen &#8211; de ruimtes in het gebouw worden gescheiden by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2013/04/verbouwing-kunsthal-kost-5-miljoen-de-ruimtes-in-het-gebouw-worden-gescheiden/comment-page-1/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kunsthal - de ruimtes in het gebouw worden gescheiden. Mag ik hopen dat die compartimentering niet alleen vanwege het klimaat, maar ook met het oog op inbraakvertraging zal plaatsvinden. Als er achter de buitenschil gecertificeerde, inbraakwerende rolluiken worden aangebracht, dan kan De Kunsthal zich scharen in de rij bouwkundig goed beveiligde musea.

Ton Cremers
toncremers@museum-security.org
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kunsthal &#8211; de ruimtes in het gebouw worden gescheiden. Mag ik hopen dat die compartimentering niet alleen vanwege het klimaat, maar ook met het oog op inbraakvertraging zal plaatsvinden. Als er achter de buitenschil gecertificeerde, inbraakwerende rolluiken worden aangebracht, dan kan De Kunsthal zich scharen in de rij bouwkundig goed beveiligde musea.</p>
<p>Ton Cremers<br />
<a href="mailto:toncremers@museum-security.org">toncremers@museum-security.org</a><br />
0624224620</p>
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		<title>Comment on Update &#8211; De Kunsthal: buurman Jelle Reumer gaat uit zijn dak by Ton Cremers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Natuurhistorisch: ZO kan het ook...kwestie van goed management.

Museum hides £400k rhino heads over robbery fears
http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/museum-hides-400k-rhino-heads-over-robbery-fears-1-2856382March 26, 2013
By FRANK URQUHART Published on Monday 25 March 2013 23:26

The black Rhino head which has had to be removed from a museum amid fears it would be targeted by ruthless armed gangs. Picture: HEMedia

By FRANK URQUHART

Published on Monday 25 March 2013 23:26
SCOTLAND’S oldest independent museum has been forced to put two valuable rhino heads under lock and key, amid fears the building could be targeted by armed gangs selling illegal rhino horn on the Asian black market.

The black and white rhino heads – two of the star exhibits at the Elgin Museum in Moray – have been transferred for safekeeping to the National Museums of Scotland in Edinburgh, following a spate of raids across Europe.

Rhino horns can sell for up £50,000 a kg on the black market – making them more valuable than gold or cocaine. Illegal powdered rhino horn is used in traditional Asian medicines and is prized as an aphrodisiac.

In February last year, a gang was foiled in a bid to steal a rhino horn from a display case at a Norfolk museum. In 2011, horns were stolen from three museums in France and a taxidermist in Vienna.

Janet Trythall, vice-president of the Moray Society, which owns the Elgin museum, said the rhino heads, which have been in its collection since 1941, had been transferred to the vaults of the National Museums to ensure the safety of museum staff. A late Ming dynasty rhino-horn cup has also been moved.


She said: “We were obviously concerned that someone might try and steal the rhino heads. There have been reports of many thefts of rhino material from museums over the past couple of years, on the continent and in England, often involving forced entry while the building has been occupied, and the use of CS gas spray.

“Many of these thefts have been violent thefts, and we had to think about the safety of our staff and volunteers. The horns are of sufficient value that people are prepared to take desperate measures to steal rhino horns.”

Ms Trythall said the society had been reluctant to surrender the “iconic objects” from its collection but had been left with no choice. “We tried to find alterative solutions,” she said. “We had installed a panic button at the door in the first instance, but after being contacted by a member of the staff from the cultural collections at the National Museums, we decided the exhibits just had to go.

“I think it’s unlikely the people of Moray will see these exhibits again in our lifetime.

“It’s awful to be dictated by these gangs as to what you are able to display, but we have to be realistic.”

The head of the white rhino had been on display in the museum’s main hall. It was shot in Sudan in 1913. The black rhino was shot in Northern Rhodesia. Both artefacts were donated by the father of Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Menzies, who lived at Arndilly House in Craigellachie.

The Chinese rhino horn was donated by George Boyd Anderson, a worldwide traveller and collector from Lossiemouth who died in 1972 and gave Elgin Museum nearly 100 objects he had collected during his travels.

A spokesman for the National Museums of Scotland described the transfer of the three exhibits to Edinburgh as a “one-off”, saying he wasn’t aware of any other museums taking the same step.

He added that all rhino material at the Edinburgh museums had been removed from public display some time ago. “Our exhibits are clearly marked up as ‘fake rhino horn’,” he said.

A spokesman for Glasgow Life, which runs many of the city’s museums, said it had removed a rhinoceros’ horn exhibit following a security assessment in August 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natuurhistorisch: ZO kan het ook&#8230;kwestie van goed management.</p>
<p>Museum hides £400k rhino heads over robbery fears<br />
<a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/museum-hides-400k-rhino-heads-over-robbery-fears-1-2856382March" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/museum-hides-400k-rhino-heads-over-robbery-fears-1-2856382March</a> 26, 2013<br />
By FRANK URQUHART Published on Monday 25 March 2013 23:26</p>
<p>The black Rhino head which has had to be removed from a museum amid fears it would be targeted by ruthless armed gangs. Picture: HEMedia</p>
<p>By FRANK URQUHART</p>
<p>Published on Monday 25 March 2013 23:26<br />
SCOTLAND’S oldest independent museum has been forced to put two valuable rhino heads under lock and key, amid fears the building could be targeted by armed gangs selling illegal rhino horn on the Asian black market.</p>
<p>The black and white rhino heads – two of the star exhibits at the Elgin Museum in Moray – have been transferred for safekeeping to the National Museums of Scotland in Edinburgh, following a spate of raids across Europe.</p>
<p>Rhino horns can sell for up £50,000 a kg on the black market – making them more valuable than gold or cocaine. Illegal powdered rhino horn is used in traditional Asian medicines and is prized as an aphrodisiac.</p>
<p>In February last year, a gang was foiled in a bid to steal a rhino horn from a display case at a Norfolk museum. In 2011, horns were stolen from three museums in France and a taxidermist in Vienna.</p>
<p>Janet Trythall, vice-president of the Moray Society, which owns the Elgin museum, said the rhino heads, which have been in its collection since 1941, had been transferred to the vaults of the National Museums to ensure the safety of museum staff. A late Ming dynasty rhino-horn cup has also been moved.</p>
<p>She said: “We were obviously concerned that someone might try and steal the rhino heads. There have been reports of many thefts of rhino material from museums over the past couple of years, on the continent and in England, often involving forced entry while the building has been occupied, and the use of CS gas spray.</p>
<p>“Many of these thefts have been violent thefts, and we had to think about the safety of our staff and volunteers. The horns are of sufficient value that people are prepared to take desperate measures to steal rhino horns.”</p>
<p>Ms Trythall said the society had been reluctant to surrender the “iconic objects” from its collection but had been left with no choice. “We tried to find alterative solutions,” she said. “We had installed a panic button at the door in the first instance, but after being contacted by a member of the staff from the cultural collections at the National Museums, we decided the exhibits just had to go.</p>
<p>“I think it’s unlikely the people of Moray will see these exhibits again in our lifetime.</p>
<p>“It’s awful to be dictated by these gangs as to what you are able to display, but we have to be realistic.”</p>
<p>The head of the white rhino had been on display in the museum’s main hall. It was shot in Sudan in 1913. The black rhino was shot in Northern Rhodesia. Both artefacts were donated by the father of Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Menzies, who lived at Arndilly House in Craigellachie.</p>
<p>The Chinese rhino horn was donated by George Boyd Anderson, a worldwide traveller and collector from Lossiemouth who died in 1972 and gave Elgin Museum nearly 100 objects he had collected during his travels.</p>
<p>A spokesman for the National Museums of Scotland described the transfer of the three exhibits to Edinburgh as a “one-off”, saying he wasn’t aware of any other museums taking the same step.</p>
<p>He added that all rhino material at the Edinburgh museums had been removed from public display some time ago. “Our exhibits are clearly marked up as ‘fake rhino horn’,” he said.</p>
<p>A spokesman for Glasgow Life, which runs many of the city’s museums, said it had removed a rhinoceros’ horn exhibit following a security assessment in August 2011.</p>
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		<title>Comment on De Kunsthal, het Catharijne Convent, Huis Doorn, het Stedelijk Museum Zutphen, Museum Bommel van Dam&#8230;einde van de lijst nog niet in zicht by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2013/03/de-kunsthal-het-catharijne-convent-het-stedelijk-museum-zutphen-museum-bommel-van-dam-einde-van-de-lijst-nog-niet-in-zicht/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooggetuige: twee daders kunstroof Venlo &#124; L1 &#124; Nieuws en sport uit Limburg
http://www.l1.nl/nieuws/209531-ooggetuige-twee-daders-kunstroof-venloMarch 22, 2013
De kunstroof bij museum van Bommel van Dam in Venlo is vermoedelijk gepleegd door twee daders.

Ooggetuige Erik Manders, die in de buurt woont, zag hoe twee mannen  met capuchons op rond 5 uur vrijdagmorgen aan de achterkant van het museum spullen in hun auto laadden. Enkele ogenblikken later kwam de politie aanrijden uit de richting waarin de daders zouden zijn weggereden.

Bij de inbraak in museum van Bommel van Dam in Venlo zijn vier kunstwerken gestolen met een waarde van 1,1 miljoen euro. Het gaat om drie panelen met beschilderd papier-maché en één paneel met olieverf. Allevier de gestolen werken maakten deel uit van de lopende expositie van de collectie Manders. Die is sinds 27 januari in het Venlose museum voor moderne kunst te zien.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooggetuige: twee daders kunstroof Venlo | L1 | Nieuws en sport uit Limburg<br />
<a href="http://www.l1.nl/nieuws/209531-ooggetuige-twee-daders-kunstroof-venloMarch" rel="nofollow">http://www.l1.nl/nieuws/209531-ooggetuige-twee-daders-kunstroof-venloMarch</a> 22, 2013<br />
De kunstroof bij museum van Bommel van Dam in Venlo is vermoedelijk gepleegd door twee daders.</p>
<p>Ooggetuige Erik Manders, die in de buurt woont, zag hoe twee mannen  met capuchons op rond 5 uur vrijdagmorgen aan de achterkant van het museum spullen in hun auto laadden. Enkele ogenblikken later kwam de politie aanrijden uit de richting waarin de daders zouden zijn weggereden.</p>
<p>Bij de inbraak in museum van Bommel van Dam in Venlo zijn vier kunstwerken gestolen met een waarde van 1,1 miljoen euro. Het gaat om drie panelen met beschilderd papier-maché en één paneel met olieverf. Allevier de gestolen werken maakten deel uit van de lopende expositie van de collectie Manders. Die is sinds 27 januari in het Venlose museum voor moderne kunst te zien.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kunstwerken gestolen uit Museum Van Bommel van Dam in Venlo :: nrc.nl by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2013/03/kunstwerken-gestolen-uit-museum-van-bommel-van-dam-in-venlo-nrc-nl/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eerst Zutphen, nu Venlo. Het zal toch niet zo zijn dat het Roemeense dievengilde massaal op pad is na het &#039;makkie&#039; in De Kunsthal. Het wordt zo langzamerhand tijd dat de musea ECHT iets gaan doen aan de inbraakwerendheid van de gebouwen (en de vitrines).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eerst Zutphen, nu Venlo. Het zal toch niet zo zijn dat het Roemeense dievengilde massaal op pad is na het &#8216;makkie&#8217; in De Kunsthal. Het wordt zo langzamerhand tijd dat de musea ECHT iets gaan doen aan de inbraakwerendheid van de gebouwen (en de vitrines).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Update &#8211; De Kunsthal: buurman Jelle Reumer gaat uit zijn dak by Anthon Groeneweg over Jelle Reumer -</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthon Groeneweg over Jelle Reumer -</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geachte heer Cremers

Ik lees eerst nu uw column op de website van museumbeveiliging over de kunstroof bij
de kunsthal en de reactie van de boze buurman Jelle Reumer. Wat een onterecht vunzig gif van deze meneer aan jou adres, zeg! Het is wel begrijpelijk, toen werd gewaarschuwd dat de neushoorndieven actief waren en ook in het natuurmuseum een diefstal dreigde van de neushoorn met echte hoorns die vanuit de buitenzijde duidelijk zichtbaar hing op de eerste etage van het natuurmuseum heeft hij er niet voor gekozen deze - rekening houdend met de niet optimale beveiliging van het natuurmuseum en de waarschijnlijke rovers die tweemaal in het museum geweest zijn en duidelijk alleen maar interesse hadden voor neushoornkop - dan maar in veiligheid te brengen.

Hij heeft de neushoornkop lekker zitbaar laten hangen en het risico van diefstal met eventueel gevaar voor personeel, er was namelijk bericht van de politie dat als ze zouden komen dan was het met traangas, maar voor lief genomen.
De neushoorn is gestolen: goed voor de publiciteit en de verzekeringspenningen; het natuurmuseum zat en zit in zware financiële problemen de verzekeringspenningen waren zeer welkom.

Jelle Reumer heeft met deze arrogante houding de museumwereld in een kwaad daglicht gebracht en dat niet alleen, hij heeft bij de verzekering een bedrag geclaimd voor de hoorn en herstelkosten die niet overeenstemde met de werkelijke kosten.

Uiteindelijk heeft de verzekering het geclaimde bedrag uitbetaald niet alleen de verzekering maar ook het OBR als huisbaas heeft de schade moeten vergoeden aan de glazen deuren; dat zou allemaal niet nodig zijn geweest als de neushoorn tijdelijk in veiligheid was gebracht.
Jelle Reumer hoeft niet in de rij de staan als het predicaat allooi wordt uitgedeeld hij heeft het reeds.

Ik wens jou veel succes met je verdere objectieve analyses van de beveiliging hier en daar.

groet Anthon Groeneweg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geachte heer Cremers</p>
<p>Ik lees eerst nu uw column op de website van museumbeveiliging over de kunstroof bij<br />
de kunsthal en de reactie van de boze buurman Jelle Reumer. Wat een onterecht vunzig gif van deze meneer aan jou adres, zeg! Het is wel begrijpelijk, toen werd gewaarschuwd dat de neushoorndieven actief waren en ook in het natuurmuseum een diefstal dreigde van de neushoorn met echte hoorns die vanuit de buitenzijde duidelijk zichtbaar hing op de eerste etage van het natuurmuseum heeft hij er niet voor gekozen deze &#8211; rekening houdend met de niet optimale beveiliging van het natuurmuseum en de waarschijnlijke rovers die tweemaal in het museum geweest zijn en duidelijk alleen maar interesse hadden voor neushoornkop &#8211; dan maar in veiligheid te brengen.</p>
<p>Hij heeft de neushoornkop lekker zitbaar laten hangen en het risico van diefstal met eventueel gevaar voor personeel, er was namelijk bericht van de politie dat als ze zouden komen dan was het met traangas, maar voor lief genomen.<br />
De neushoorn is gestolen: goed voor de publiciteit en de verzekeringspenningen; het natuurmuseum zat en zit in zware financiële problemen de verzekeringspenningen waren zeer welkom.</p>
<p>Jelle Reumer heeft met deze arrogante houding de museumwereld in een kwaad daglicht gebracht en dat niet alleen, hij heeft bij de verzekering een bedrag geclaimd voor de hoorn en herstelkosten die niet overeenstemde met de werkelijke kosten.</p>
<p>Uiteindelijk heeft de verzekering het geclaimde bedrag uitbetaald niet alleen de verzekering maar ook het OBR als huisbaas heeft de schade moeten vergoeden aan de glazen deuren; dat zou allemaal niet nodig zijn geweest als de neushoorn tijdelijk in veiligheid was gebracht.<br />
Jelle Reumer hoeft niet in de rij de staan als het predicaat allooi wordt uitgedeeld hij heeft het reeds.</p>
<p>Ik wens jou veel succes met je verdere objectieve analyses van de beveiliging hier en daar.</p>
<p>groet Anthon Groeneweg</p>
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		<title>Comment on Verdriet bij bisdom om gestolen monstrans &#8211; Museumdirecteur Marieke van Schijndel noemde het object na de roof al &#8216;onverkoopbaar&#8217; by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2013/01/verdriet-bij-bisdom-om-gestolen-monstrans-museumdirecteur-marieke-van-schijndel-noemde-het-object-na-de-roof-al-onverkoopbaar/comment-page-1/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geen budget is geen excuus, maar een schuldbekentenis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geen budget is geen excuus, maar een schuldbekentenis</p>
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		<title>Comment on Huis Doorn slachtoffer diefstal by TC</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/12/huis-doorn-slachtoffer-diefstal/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jelle Reumer - Dieven tikten een ruit in en waren toen binnen? Weet je wat: laat ik eens een keer geen commentaar geven (want anders wordt Jelle Reumer boos)...
http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/2012/12/13/de-kunsthal-buurman-jelle-reumer-gaat-uit-zijn-dak/
en: http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/2012/12/15/kwaliteit-beveiliging-museum-is-niet-altijd-een-kwestie-van-budgetten/

Ton Cremers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jelle Reumer &#8211; Dieven tikten een ruit in en waren toen binnen? Weet je wat: laat ik eens een keer geen commentaar geven (want anders wordt Jelle Reumer boos)&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/2012/12/13/de-kunsthal-buurman-jelle-reumer-gaat-uit-zijn-dak/" rel="nofollow">http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/2012/12/13/de-kunsthal-buurman-jelle-reumer-gaat-uit-zijn-dak/</a><br />
en: <a href="http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/2012/12/15/kwaliteit-beveiliging-museum-is-niet-altijd-een-kwestie-van-budgetten/" rel="nofollow">http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/2012/12/15/kwaliteit-beveiliging-museum-is-niet-altijd-een-kwestie-van-budgetten/</a></p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ambassador to UN says Cyprus’ cultural heritage destruction by Turkey is “systematic and widespread” by Ton Cremers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cyprus - Turkey: this information - we have known about this ever since the mid nineties - sheds an interesting light on recent requests by Turkey for the return of heritage objects in western museums]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyprus &#8211; Turkey: this information &#8211; we have known about this ever since the mid nineties &#8211; sheds an interesting light on recent requests by Turkey for the return of heritage objects in western museums</p>
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		<title>Comment on Protected: Nog een keer: De Kunsthal, Emily Ansenk en &#8216;state of the art&#8217; beveiliging by TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Nog een keer: De Kunsthal, Emily Ansenk en ‘state of the art’ beveiliging by TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 07:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gecensureerd! Bovenstaande column, evenals de volgende over AON Artscope, werd verwijderd, weggecensureerd, door de moderator van de Linkedin groep Veilig Erfgoed omdat ik &#039;van leer trek&#039; tegen personen. Het verschil tussen het plaatsen van een tekst in die groep en het verwijzen naar een tekst elders op het internet via een hyperlink, begrijpt deze moderator blijkbaar niet. Wat maternaliserend! Blijkbaar onderschat deze moderator het vermogen van Veilig Erfgoed leden zelfstandig te denken. In alle 15 jaar waarin ik het Museum Security Network beheerde weigerde ik alleen berichten die afweken van het onderwerp van MSN. Zelfs berichten waarin deelnemers stevig, soms heel stevig, tegen mij als moderator van leer trokken, heb ik altijd door gelaten. Ja, ja: de mond vol over vrijheid van meningsuiting totdat je een mening verkondigt (op een wijze) die niet welgevallig is. Dan is die vrijheid ineens geen fundamenteel recht meer.

Ton Cremers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gecensureerd! Bovenstaande column, evenals de volgende over AON Artscope, werd verwijderd, weggecensureerd, door de moderator van de Linkedin groep Veilig Erfgoed omdat ik &#8216;van leer trek&#8217; tegen personen. Het verschil tussen het plaatsen van een tekst in die groep en het verwijzen naar een tekst elders op het internet via een hyperlink, begrijpt deze moderator blijkbaar niet. Wat maternaliserend! Blijkbaar onderschat deze moderator het vermogen van Veilig Erfgoed leden zelfstandig te denken. In alle 15 jaar waarin ik het Museum Security Network beheerde weigerde ik alleen berichten die afweken van het onderwerp van MSN. Zelfs berichten waarin deelnemers stevig, soms heel stevig, tegen mij als moderator van leer trokken, heb ik altijd door gelaten. Ja, ja: de mond vol over vrijheid van meningsuiting totdat je een mening verkondigt (op een wijze) die niet welgevallig is. Dan is die vrijheid ineens geen fundamenteel recht meer.</p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ruud Spruit en Emily Ansenk slachtoffer van beveiligingsmafia by TC</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/10/ruud-spruit-en-emily-ansenk-slachtoffer-van-beveiligingsmafia/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9563#comment-519</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Spruit ziet een tagging techniek als beveiliging. Dat is natuurlijk geen beveiliging, maar mosterd na de maaltijd wanneer de beveiliging gefaald heeft. De man zal het nooit leren.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spruit ziet een tagging techniek als beveiliging. Dat is natuurlijk geen beveiliging, maar mosterd na de maaltijd wanneer de beveiliging gefaald heeft. De man zal het nooit leren.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ruud Spruit en Emily Ansenk slachtoffer van beveiligingsmaffia by TC</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/10/ruud-spruit-en-emily-ansenk-slachtoffer-van-beveiligingsmafia-2/comment-page-1/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/?p=9477#comment-834</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Spruit ziet een tagging techniek als beveiliging. Dat is natuurlijk geen beveiliging, maar mosterd na de maaltijd wanneer de beveiliging gefaald heeft. De man zal het nooit leren.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spruit ziet een tagging techniek als beveiliging. Dat is natuurlijk geen beveiliging, maar mosterd na de maaltijd wanneer de beveiliging gefaald heeft. De man zal het nooit leren.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thieves who stole Picasso, Matisse, Monets from Dutch museum were more crude than cunning &#8211; The Washington Post by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/10/thieves-who-stole-picasso-matisse-monets-from-dutch-museum-were-more-crude-than-cunning-the-washington-post/comment-page-1/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9527#comment-512</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Willem, denk na: denk je niet dat mijn commentaar mij eerder baantjes (opdrachten) kost dan dat het baantjes (opdrachten) oplevert?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willem, denk na: denk je niet dat mijn commentaar mij eerder baantjes (opdrachten) kost dan dat het baantjes (opdrachten) oplevert?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thieves who stole Picasso, Matisse, Monets from Dutch museum were more crude than cunning &#8211; The Washington Post by Willem Jansen</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/10/thieves-who-stole-picasso-matisse-monets-from-dutch-museum-were-more-crude-than-cunning-the-washington-post/comment-page-1/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>Willem Jansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9527#comment-511</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Solliciteer je naar een baantje Ton?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solliciteer je naar een baantje Ton?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thieves who stole Picasso, Matisse, Monets from Dutch museum were more crude than cunning &#8211; The Washington Post by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/10/thieves-who-stole-picasso-matisse-monets-from-dutch-museum-were-more-crude-than-cunning-the-washington-post/comment-page-1/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9527#comment-510</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[After the major art heist from the Kunsthal, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, the director of this museum stated in a press conference that the security of this museum is ‘state of the art’. How stupid can one get: there was a burglary, seven paintings were stolen with a total estimated value (according to the Art Loss Register) of € 50 to € 100 million, but the security is ‘state of the art’?

This statement by the director of the Kunsthal really disqualifies her as a manager with ultimate responsibility for the security of the museum, a core business.

There is no other option: she should leave, and make room for a manager who IS qualified for this job.

Ton Cremers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the major art heist from the Kunsthal, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, the director of this museum stated in a press conference that the security of this museum is ‘state of the art’. How stupid can one get: there was a burglary, seven paintings were stolen with a total estimated value (according to the Art Loss Register) of € 50 to € 100 million, but the security is ‘state of the art’?</p>
<p>This statement by the director of the Kunsthal really disqualifies her as a manager with ultimate responsibility for the security of the museum, a core business.</p>
<p>There is no other option: she should leave, and make room for a manager who IS qualified for this job.</p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<title>Comment on NIGERIAN TERRACOTTA SEIZED BY US IMMIGRATION IS NOT HOMELESS by Ike</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/09/nigerian-terracotta-seized-by-us-immigration-is-not-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9468#comment-507</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[apart from cocain, traffiking in cultural objects is about the biggest-money making business in the world today. if Nigerian Government really want to get to the root of this matter.then talk to the local labor union. AUPCTRE.STAFF KNOW A LOT.BUT SCARED TO TALK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apart from cocain, traffiking in cultural objects is about the biggest-money making business in the world today. if Nigerian Government really want to get to the root of this matter.then talk to the local labor union. AUPCTRE.STAFF KNOW A LOT.BUT SCARED TO TALK</p>
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		<title>Comment on tomflynn: Art Loss Register and Jack Solomon facing lawsuit over their part in Norman Rockwell title dispute by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/06/tomflynn-art-loss-register-jack-solomon-facing-lawsuit-part-norman-rockwell-title-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been informed that the ALR opposes some of the statements made by Tom Flynn, but due to legal procedures does not have the liberty to publish a reaction at this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been informed that the ALR opposes some of the statements made by Tom Flynn, but due to legal procedures does not have the liberty to publish a reaction at this time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on tomflynn: Art Loss Register and Jack Solomon facing lawsuit over their part in Norman Rockwell title dispute by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/06/tomflynn-art-loss-register-jack-solomon-facing-lawsuit-part-norman-rockwell-title-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9431#comment-501</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I have been informed that the ALR opposes some of the statements made by Tom Flynn, but due to legal procedures does not have the liberty to publish a reaction at this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been informed that the ALR opposes some of the statements made by Tom Flynn, but due to legal procedures does not have the liberty to publish a reaction at this time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural Property Observer: Loot Busters (Dorothy King) by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/06/cultural-property-observer-loot-busters-dorothy-king/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=8706#comment-498</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[What a meager result; since the announcement of this site nothing interesting was added anymore. Does that mean nothing is happening, or died this endeavour at birth...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a meager result; since the announcement of this site nothing interesting was added anymore. Does that mean nothing is happening, or died this endeavour at birth&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Museums President Blames Lax Security For Cezanne Theft by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/04/museums-president-blames-lax-security-for-cezanne-theft/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9229#comment-487</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Great to know that the president of the Swiss Museums Assoc., GIanna Mina,  profiles herself as a security expert. If security experts would be as arrogant to make public statements about art history, they would be the laughing stock of the museum world. Of course Mina is right when she states that artworks never are absolutely safe. But there is plenty of room for improvement of security as &#039;absolutely&#039;. Knowing that 80% of all solved thefts from museums have insider involvement Mina&#039;s suggestion that only closed museums are 100% secure is not based on facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to know that the president of the Swiss Museums Assoc., GIanna Mina,  profiles herself as a security expert. If security experts would be as arrogant to make public statements about art history, they would be the laughing stock of the museum world. Of course Mina is right when she states that artworks never are absolutely safe. But there is plenty of room for improvement of security as &#8216;absolutely&#8217;. Knowing that 80% of all solved thefts from museums have insider involvement Mina&#8217;s suggestion that only closed museums are 100% secure is not based on facts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joshua Knelman&#8217;s book HOT ART; this book is not even fit to wrap fish in by V.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/03/joshua-knelmans-book-hot-art-vulgair-wrap-rotten-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>V.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9085#comment-479</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Mr.Cremers,
I&#039;m terribly sorry to hear of your diagnosis of &quot;lonesome paranoia&quot; by &quot;Doctor&quot; Knelman.  

But I suggest that  &quot;Dr. Knelman&quot; is guilty of receiving biased information and failure to actually conduct his own independent research.  
  Interestingly, only fleetingly ( and  in the fine print) does Knelman actually even  mention Bob Bazin fromFBI  Philadelphia and Bill Martin from LAPD Los Angeles, and he  somehow (?? ??)completely manages to omit the entire  FBI New York, Brooklyn- Queens  &quot;art squad&quot; and other major cases of the FBI??  He attempts some sensationalism (the Los Angeles Police  ride-along) and the story falls flat.  Knelman has failed to adequately research his subject matter with any reasonable attention.  
  I am personally proud to give Bill Martin, Bob Bazin and the FBI-  Brooklyn Queens Metropolitan Resident Agency all the credit for their mentoring to me.. Whom on earth does Knelman really think  brings all of those NY cases to federal court, anyway?  
   Regarding at least the US investigators,  Knelman has as we say here, &quot;drank the Kool-Aid&quot; .  He apparently gives great credence to those  self promoting  vague websites and autobiographic Wikipedia entries.  At best, &quot;Hot Art&quot;  appears to be yet another  poorly researched vanity publication- perhaps based on another ghost written  2010   debacle  in which the  &quot;investigator&quot;  seems to never (??) actually do their job and  present  a case for prosecution.  Thank you Mr. Cremers,  for this message board and for all of your contributions to this field.  If I were you, I&#039;d get a second opinion on Knelman&#039;s diagnosis.
Virginia Curry, Special Agent, FBI (retired)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Cremers,<br />
I&#8217;m terribly sorry to hear of your diagnosis of &#8220;lonesome paranoia&#8221; by &#8220;Doctor&#8221; Knelman.  </p>
<p>But I suggest that  &#8220;Dr. Knelman&#8221; is guilty of receiving biased information and failure to actually conduct his own independent research.<br />
  Interestingly, only fleetingly ( and  in the fine print) does Knelman actually even  mention Bob Bazin fromFBI  Philadelphia and Bill Martin from LAPD Los Angeles, and he  somehow (?? ??)completely manages to omit the entire  FBI New York, Brooklyn- Queens  &#8220;art squad&#8221; and other major cases of the FBI??  He attempts some sensationalism (the Los Angeles Police  ride-along) and the story falls flat.  Knelman has failed to adequately research his subject matter with any reasonable attention.<br />
  I am personally proud to give Bill Martin, Bob Bazin and the FBI-  Brooklyn Queens Metropolitan Resident Agency all the credit for their mentoring to me.. Whom on earth does Knelman really think  brings all of those NY cases to federal court, anyway?<br />
   Regarding at least the US investigators,  Knelman has as we say here, &#8220;drank the Kool-Aid&#8221; .  He apparently gives great credence to those  self promoting  vague websites and autobiographic Wikipedia entries.  At best, &#8220;Hot Art&#8221;  appears to be yet another  poorly researched vanity publication- perhaps based on another ghost written  2010   debacle  in which the  &#8220;investigator&#8221;  seems to never (??) actually do their job and  present  a case for prosecution.  Thank you Mr. Cremers,  for this message board and for all of your contributions to this field.  If I were you, I&#8217;d get a second opinion on Knelman&#8217;s diagnosis.<br />
Virginia Curry, Special Agent, FBI (retired)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural Heritage Lawyer Rick St. Hilaire: Ka Nefer Nefer Case Resumes After Lengthy Hiatus by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/03/cultural-heritage-lawyer-rick-st-hilaire-ka-nefer-nefer-case-resumes-lengthy-hiatus/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=9066#comment-477</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[- Saint Louis Art Museum - Of course the Saint louis Art Museum knows that this mask was stolen from a warehouse in Saqqara. This museum should be blacklisted, and treated like an outcast in the global museum community. It is not without reason that this museum is not a member of ICOM. The SLAM did not buy this mask in good faith, for if it did the mask would have been returned without a moment&#039;s hesitation after it became clear that the Aboutaams manufactured a provenance. It shows bad-faith that the SLAM refuses to return the Ka Nefer Nefer mask.

Ton Cremers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Saint Louis Art Museum &#8211; Of course the Saint louis Art Museum knows that this mask was stolen from a warehouse in Saqqara. This museum should be blacklisted, and treated like an outcast in the global museum community. It is not without reason that this museum is not a member of ICOM. The SLAM did not buy this mask in good faith, for if it did the mask would have been returned without a moment&#8217;s hesitation after it became clear that the Aboutaams manufactured a provenance. It shows bad-faith that the SLAM refuses to return the Ka Nefer Nefer mask.</p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Terugbrengen gestolen zilver loont by Ton Cremers</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/03/terugbrengen-gestolen-zilver-loont/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museumbeveiliging.com/?p=4428#comment-832</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Gerard de Kleijn beweegt zich na deze diefstal - het zit de man niet mee: in zijn vorige functie als museumdirecteur (Armando Museum) brandde zijn hele museum inclusief de collectie af - evenals destijds, onhandig in de publiciteit. Er moet natuurlijk niet betaald worden voor het teruggeven van die monstrans. Er moet alleen betaald worden wanneer de monstrans terugkeert EN de daders opgepakt worden. Doet me denken aan de museumdirecteur die aan dieven betaalde voor het terugbezorgen van een gestolen scheepsmodel. Niet lang daarna werden uit zijn museum een groot aantal schilderijen en zilveren objecten gestolen.

Ton Cremers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard de Kleijn beweegt zich na deze diefstal &#8211; het zit de man niet mee: in zijn vorige functie als museumdirecteur (Armando Museum) brandde zijn hele museum inclusief de collectie af &#8211; evenals destijds, onhandig in de publiciteit. Er moet natuurlijk niet betaald worden voor het teruggeven van die monstrans. Er moet alleen betaald worden wanneer de monstrans terugkeert EN de daders opgepakt worden. Doet me denken aan de museumdirecteur die aan dieven betaalde voor het terugbezorgen van een gestolen scheepsmodel. Niet lang daarna werden uit zijn museum een groot aantal schilderijen en zilveren objecten gestolen.</p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kwame Opoku &#8211; TURKISH DECISION NOT TO LOAN ARTIFACTS TO MUSEUMS WITH WHICH IT HAS DISPUTES OVER by Asif N</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/03/turkish-decision-not-to-loan-artifacts-to-museums-with-which-it-has-disputes-over/comment-page-1/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>Asif N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=8868#comment-467</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Way to go, Turkey! At least someone won&#039;t stand for corporate bullying!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go, Turkey! At least someone won&#8217;t stand for corporate bullying!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural Property Observer: Loot Busters (Dorothy King) by TC</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/06/cultural-property-observer-loot-busters-dorothy-king/comment-page-1/#comment-459</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=8706#comment-459</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Oops, i do not have any personal feelings FOR the PhDiva! A dinosaur still referring to the Parthenon marbles as the Elgin Marbles. Even the British Museum is aware that using the name of the looter is inappropriate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, i do not have any personal feelings FOR the PhDiva! A dinosaur still referring to the Parthenon marbles as the Elgin Marbles. Even the British Museum is aware that using the name of the looter is inappropriate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural Property Observer: Loot Busters (Dorothy King) by A. Dex</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/06/cultural-property-observer-loot-busters-dorothy-king/comment-page-1/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Dex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=8706#comment-458</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[What happened to professionalism, Ton Cremers?  It certainly sounds like your personal feelings for Dorothy Lobel King are clouding your judgment.

Dr. King ought to be applauded for bringing images of looted works to the attention of a wider public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to professionalism, Ton Cremers?  It certainly sounds like your personal feelings for Dorothy Lobel King are clouding your judgment.</p>
<p>Dr. King ought to be applauded for bringing images of looted works to the attention of a wider public.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural Property Observer: Loot Busters (Dorothy King) by TC</title>
		<link>http://www.museum-security.org/2012/06/cultural-property-observer-loot-busters-dorothy-king/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.museum-security.org/?p=8706#comment-455</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Dorothy King and (?) Culture-Concierge.com? Well, Culture-Concierge.com IS Ms. Dorothy King; the very same person who wrote a disposable book about the Parthenon marbles (and just never can resist to call these the Elgin marbles) in which she defends the presence of those marbles in the British Museum. By the way - don&#039;t be surprised - at Culture-Concierge.com King is not only promoting her prejudiced book, but also her services for collectors (sic!), and the motto is: &quot;The service isn&#039;t cheap - but we&#039;re worth it&quot;. How cheap can one get..
King likes to call herself PhDiva (http://phdiva.blogspot.com/)..a talentless Diva, for she has an extremely poor historical sense: &quot;Cultural Property was quite a small and relatively new field in those days&quot;, meaning: ten years ago. Cultural Property a relatively new field? Maybe for this diapers diva, but not to the rest of the cultural property world.
I would not be surprised if King presents herself the very first in this Loot Busters field.
As for Cultural Property Observer presenting Ms. King&#039;s latest endeavor: &quot;it (= Loot Busters) is a welcome change from the usual finger wagging&quot;....hey, is Cultural Property Observer wagging his finger here?

Ton Cremers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy King and (?) Culture-Concierge.com? Well, Culture-Concierge.com IS Ms. Dorothy King; the very same person who wrote a disposable book about the Parthenon marbles (and just never can resist to call these the Elgin marbles) in which she defends the presence of those marbles in the British Museum. By the way &#8211; don&#8217;t be surprised &#8211; at Culture-Concierge.com King is not only promoting her prejudiced book, but also her services for collectors (sic!), and the motto is: &#8220;The service isn&#8217;t cheap &#8211; but we&#8217;re worth it&#8221;. How cheap can one get..<br />
King likes to call herself PhDiva (<a href="http://phdiva.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://phdiva.blogspot.com/</a>)..a talentless Diva, for she has an extremely poor historical sense: &#8220;Cultural Property was quite a small and relatively new field in those days&#8221;, meaning: ten years ago. Cultural Property a relatively new field? Maybe for this diapers diva, but not to the rest of the cultural property world.<br />
I would not be surprised if King presents herself the very first in this Loot Busters field.<br />
As for Cultural Property Observer presenting Ms. King&#8217;s latest endeavor: &#8220;it (= Loot Busters) is a welcome change from the usual finger wagging&#8221;&#8230;.hey, is Cultural Property Observer wagging his finger here?</p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Gestolen doek Magritte na twee jaar teruggevonden &#8211; De Standaard by Ton Cremers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Waaruit maar weer eens blijkt dat kunstdieven niet de ‘professionals’ zijn waar ze onterecht vaak voor worden gehouden, maar ‘losers’ die – duidelijk geworden door interviews met daders – vooraf nauwelijks hebben nagedacht wat te doen met de buit. Voor geïnteresseerden:

http://www.radio1.nl/items/41185-wat-gebeurt-er-met-gestolen-kunst?autostart=73495]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaruit maar weer eens blijkt dat kunstdieven niet de ‘professionals’ zijn waar ze onterecht vaak voor worden gehouden, maar ‘losers’ die – duidelijk geworden door interviews met daders – vooraf nauwelijks hebben nagedacht wat te doen met de buit. Voor geïnteresseerden:</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saint Louis Art Museum announces major gift of nearly 150 European artworks; Most interesting. This museum is NOT a member of the International Council of Museums (ICOM), and still refusing to return a stolen Egyptian mask (the Ka Nefer Nefer mask that was stolen from a warehouse in Saqqara, Egypt). The Saint Louis Art museum ignores the ICOM code of ethics. by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most interesting. This museum is NOT a member of the International Council of Museums (ICOM), and still refusing to return a stolen Egyptian mask (the Ka Nefer Nefer mask that was stolen from a warehouse in Saqqara, Egypt). The Saint Louis Art museum ignores the ICOM code of ethics.

Ton Cremers

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most interesting. This museum is NOT a member of the International Council of Museums (ICOM), and still refusing to return a stolen Egyptian mask (the Ka Nefer Nefer mask that was stolen from a warehouse in Saqqara, Egypt). The Saint Louis Art museum ignores the ICOM code of ethics.</p>
<p>Ton Cremers</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Kwame Opoku &#8211; HORNIMAN MUSEUM AND THE RESTITUTION OF BENIN BRONZES by Olga Baird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olga Baird</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I very well understand the issues formulated in this article, agree with them in general and have much sympathy and compassion. However, NOT arguing against it, I still would like to think along and around these lines. 
Firstly, it can be concluded from the article, that the only event which involved looting national historic and artistic heritage, happened in 1897: England-Nigeria. Unfortunately, looting and deposition of artistic treasures form a significant part of millenniums long history of museum collections-national treasures: Greek horses at San Marco cathedral, Egyptian obelisks in Istanbul and Rome, Constantinople treasures which came to Europe in 1204, Napoleon&#039;s policy (Veronese&#039;s &quot;Feast at Cana&quot;), let alone the WW2. Thus the history of Benin bronzes is very bitter and sad, but? unfortunately, not unique. Maybe, seeing this event in historic context, it would be easier to interpret it....

Secondly, I think, that in this difficult and painful situation the mission of museums is still the same: to preserve, to research, to display - for pleasure and learning, for better understanding the wider world. It seems to me that it is exactly what the Horniman museum did: yes, the Benin bronzes were looted, but after that - preserved, recorded, described, researched, admired, displayed - for pleasure and learning. As a result, for white looters, their descendants and all other people they physically and visually present and confirm the scale and grandeur of Benin civilization, shaming and disgracing looters at the same time.

Regarding the issue of interpretation - I feel that politically biased approach went too far on both sides in this article: definitely, people of Nigeria have all right (and even duty) to interpret their heritage (and also history and heritage of all other countries). But exactly the same right and academic duty have museum curators, keepers, researchers, etc. It is not nationality and colour give this right, but education, professional vocation and training. If a museum curator cannot research, understand and explain the artefacts entrusted to him/her, he is not fit for his post. (I am Russian. Can I say that you, Western museum professionals, have no right to interpret Russian objects in your collections? Sounds silly...)

But also I picked up from the article a paragraph, which is not particularly important in the whole context, but I personally am very concerned with the issue, and fully share the autor&#039;s point of view: &quot; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very well understand the issues formulated in this article, agree with them in general and have much sympathy and compassion. However, NOT arguing against it, I still would like to think along and around these lines.<br />
Firstly, it can be concluded from the article, that the only event which involved looting national historic and artistic heritage, happened in 1897: England-Nigeria. Unfortunately, looting and deposition of artistic treasures form a significant part of millenniums long history of museum collections-national treasures: Greek horses at San Marco cathedral, Egyptian obelisks in Istanbul and Rome, Constantinople treasures which came to Europe in 1204, Napoleon&#8217;s policy (Veronese&#8217;s &#8220;Feast at Cana&#8221;), let alone the WW2. Thus the history of Benin bronzes is very bitter and sad, but? unfortunately, not unique. Maybe, seeing this event in historic context, it would be easier to interpret it&#8230;.</p>
<p>Secondly, I think, that in this difficult and painful situation the mission of museums is still the same: to preserve, to research, to display &#8211; for pleasure and learning, for better understanding the wider world. It seems to me that it is exactly what the Horniman museum did: yes, the Benin bronzes were looted, but after that &#8211; preserved, recorded, described, researched, admired, displayed &#8211; for pleasure and learning. As a result, for white looters, their descendants and all other people they physically and visually present and confirm the scale and grandeur of Benin civilization, shaming and disgracing looters at the same time.</p>
<p>Regarding the issue of interpretation &#8211; I feel that politically biased approach went too far on both sides in this article: definitely, people of Nigeria have all right (and even duty) to interpret their heritage (and also history and heritage of all other countries). But exactly the same right and academic duty have museum curators, keepers, researchers, etc. It is not nationality and colour give this right, but education, professional vocation and training. If a museum curator cannot research, understand and explain the artefacts entrusted to him/her, he is not fit for his post. (I am Russian. Can I say that you, Western museum professionals, have no right to interpret Russian objects in your collections? Sounds silly&#8230;)</p>
<p>But also I picked up from the article a paragraph, which is not particularly important in the whole context, but I personally am very concerned with the issue, and fully share the autor&#8217;s point of view: &#8221;<br />
Posted by Olga Baird</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kwame Opoku &#8211; HORNIMAN MUSEUM AND THE RESTITUTION OF BENIN BRONZES by Ademuyiwa Awoniyi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ademuyiwa Awoniyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The objects are no doubt of very high quality and of great historical value not only to Benin but to Nigeria as a nation.It is my view that regardless of the quantity, the objects must be returned to their rightful owners who are the Nigerian people. No effort should be spared in the campaign to have the objects restituted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The objects are no doubt of very high quality and of great historical value not only to Benin but to Nigeria as a nation.It is my view that regardless of the quantity, the objects must be returned to their rightful owners who are the Nigerian people. No effort should be spared in the campaign to have the objects restituted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kwame Opoku &#8211; HORNIMAN MUSEUM AND THE RESTITUTION OF BENIN BRONZES by joseph Cheruiyot</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph Cheruiyot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very disappointed to learn that African Museums are beginning to sell the priceless heritage of their countries to wealthy nations. We are custodians of our heritage in our short life on earth for future generation.In fact African Museums need to go into full swing operation to repatriate stolen objects from foreign countries and deposit in respective Museums for public admiration and pride.The cited Museum in London and many others like Museum of Mankind, also in London, need to return most of the collections to African museums.(Home of origin)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very disappointed to learn that African Museums are beginning to sell the priceless heritage of their countries to wealthy nations. We are custodians of our heritage in our short life on earth for future generation.In fact African Museums need to go into full swing operation to repatriate stolen objects from foreign countries and deposit in respective Museums for public admiration and pride.The cited Museum in London and many others like Museum of Mankind, also in London, need to return most of the collections to African museums.(Home of origin)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kwame Opoku &#8211; HORNIMAN MUSEUM AND THE RESTITUTION OF BENIN BRONZES by Mudenda George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudenda George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame indeed to what is happening as regards to illegally acquired african cultural heritage. Much education needs to be pumped in those who want to promote illegality. Please give that heritage back to the owners and I think you have raised enough profits from these objects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame indeed to what is happening as regards to illegally acquired african cultural heritage. Much education needs to be pumped in those who want to promote illegality. Please give that heritage back to the owners and I think you have raised enough profits from these objects.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Ton Cremers</dc:creator>
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